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Sunday, January 11, 2015
Response to Rob Bell article on Relevant
Posted to my Facebook page on December 22, 2014 at 11:31am
I've not seen this show, but I did read the article linked here. The following is a quote from the article: "During the second segment, Bell dug further into his illustration by discussing the cross of Jesus Christ, and why it is the ultimate metaphor for the “reconciliation of all things.” His message was simple: The cross is such a culturally enduring symbol because it is a representation of what God did for us in order for people to be able to be reconciled to His perfect love[...]"
I've not seen this show, but I did read the article linked here. The following is a quote from the article: "During the second segment, Bell dug further into his illustration by discussing the cross of Jesus Christ, and why it is the ultimate metaphor for the “reconciliation of all things.” His message was simple: The cross is such a culturally enduring symbol because it is a representation of what God did for us in order for people to be able to be reconciled to His perfect love[...]"
My question would then be: How can you talk about reconciliation and
the cross and not talk about sin and hell? What's the point of having a
Savior if there's no sin or hell to be saved from? Being saved from a
messy past or a poor current situation here on earth isn't the complete
answer! What did God do for us with that cross that Rob so (seemingly)
trivially pointed to? He sent His Son to die for our sins so we'd have
everlasting life! (John 3:16 {everlasting life being the opposite of
everlasting death, which is where we would be going without Him}) Yes,
love is good, because God is love. Yes, love (God) wins. But you cannot
only highlight a single part of the Gospel. When you do that it ceases
to be the Gospel because it ceases to be delivered in wholeness. The
greatest love of all is that although we sinned, God still loved us in
our sin, and sent His Son to take our sins upon Himself and die for that
sin, so we could spend eternity with God. THAT is the greatest love.
THAT is what people really NEED to hear. THAT is the point of the cross.
http://www.relevantmagazine.com/culture/-rob-bell-show-premiere-was-about-cross
http://www.relevantmagazine.com/culture/-rob-bell-show-premiere-was-about-cross
Re: Leaving Church
(Posted on my personal Facebook page January 9 at 11:39am)
I keep seeing these posts from various publications about why people are leaving the church. The gist of all the ones I've read is that the church isn't doing enough to meet people where they are. The church should basically accept the lgbt community as it is, allow those who don't believe in heaven or hell to spread their misinterpreted doctrines, and allow swearing and drinking in excess. Here is a paragraph from this particular article (below at the end of this post) that pulls out some of the biblical examples of people the author apparently identifies with:
I keep seeing these posts from various publications about why people are leaving the church. The gist of all the ones I've read is that the church isn't doing enough to meet people where they are. The church should basically accept the lgbt community as it is, allow those who don't believe in heaven or hell to spread their misinterpreted doctrines, and allow swearing and drinking in excess. Here is a paragraph from this particular article (below at the end of this post) that pulls out some of the biblical examples of people the author apparently identifies with:
"Even if we are the woman in adultery, or the doubting follower, or the
rebellious prodigal, or the demon-riddled young man, we can’t be
anything else right now in this moment; and in this moment, we need a
Church big enough, and tough enough, and loving enough; not just for us
as we might one day be then, but for us as we are, now."
Well, I have news for this author: The adulterous woman was forgiven and told to stop being adulterous; The doubting follower had faith and believed; The rebellious prodigal came home; The demon-riddled young man had his demons cast out from him! To think that you can come to Jesus and stay the same, without even a hint or an inkling of desire to ever change is the biggest lie out there about Christianity. And to go around hating on the church because YOU refuse to change... How in the world is that going to make a better church? Or even a better you?
No, people are leaving the church (in America) because they don't feel catered to, they aren't having their feelings met, and they aren't getting instant gratification.
If that isn't your reason for leaving the church, at least stop harping on how the church has failed you and look at what you can do for the church to help reach people! If you want a church that looks like Jesus, you better start acting like Jesus. Keep in mind, Jesus wasn't a social activist hipster.
http://www.churchleaders.com/outreach-missions/outreach-missions-articles/244545-dear-church-heres-people-really-leaving.html#.VK_eQUt43vU.facebook
Well, I have news for this author: The adulterous woman was forgiven and told to stop being adulterous; The doubting follower had faith and believed; The rebellious prodigal came home; The demon-riddled young man had his demons cast out from him! To think that you can come to Jesus and stay the same, without even a hint or an inkling of desire to ever change is the biggest lie out there about Christianity. And to go around hating on the church because YOU refuse to change... How in the world is that going to make a better church? Or even a better you?
No, people are leaving the church (in America) because they don't feel catered to, they aren't having their feelings met, and they aren't getting instant gratification.
If that isn't your reason for leaving the church, at least stop harping on how the church has failed you and look at what you can do for the church to help reach people! If you want a church that looks like Jesus, you better start acting like Jesus. Keep in mind, Jesus wasn't a social activist hipster.
http://www.churchleaders.com/outreach-missions/outreach-missions-articles/244545-dear-church-heres-people-really-leaving.html#.VK_eQUt43vU.facebook
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